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carterheywood




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PostSubject: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sat 9 Jun à 10:50

Hi everybody
I guess that many users of this forum have a huge collection of Steve Coleman recordings ! You can list it there (if you want to), I know that some releases were edited in different countries, or re-edited, what is your favourites ?
Maybe you can give a note (5/5 ?) for each release.

I start with mine, not a big big one, but all these recordings have a special place in my collection, i cherish them !

- Steve Coleman Group - Motherland Pulse (JMT Productions 1985) LP
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Sine Die (PANGÆA 1988) LP
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Rhythm People (the Resurrection of Creative Black Civilization) (RCA Schallplatten GmbH 1990) LP
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Drop Kick (BMG Victor Inc. 1992) CD
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - The Tao of Mad Phat (Fringe Zones) (BMG 1993) CD
- Steve Coleman and Metrics - A Tale of 3 Cities (the EP) (BMG 1994) CD
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Def Trance Beat (Modalities of Rhythm) (BMG Victor Inc. 1995) CD
- Steve Coleman and Metrics - The Way of the Cipher (BMG 1995) CD
- Steve Coleman and The Council Of Balance / Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Genesis & The Opening of the Way (BMG Japan 1997) 2xCD
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Alternate Dimension Series I (MP3)
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - On the Rising of the 64 Paths (Label Bleu 2003) CD
- Steve Coleman and Five Elements - Lucidarium (Label Bleu 2004) CD

And related :

- Strata Institute - Transmigration (Columbia Records 1992) CD
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zeruyo




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sat 9 Jun à 17:05

the whole steve's discography (plus various cds as sideman, especially with dave holland) take a full row in my wall library. In the last years have been the only cds I bought. Tao of mad phat is my favourite one.
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carterheywood




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sat 9 Jun à 22:51

Cool
I had the idea that someone could post this message lol
Do you have all original releases AND the repress (like Winter & Winter series) ?

I've just bought the Sato Michihiro release "Rodan" with Steve Coleman as a sideman ( http://zeni.free.fr/musique/satomichiro.htm ). Do you know it ? Very interesting work
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Dimitri E.B.




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sun 10 Jun à 2:24

Hey Carterheywood, nice found you did with that recording.

I dont know that one I guess. I was listening to some short mp3 extract and it sounds good, I d like to get that record someday. Hat art is a nice label too.

As for my Steve Coleman collection, I dont have all the re issues but I think I got many of them.
Im not collecting the packaging myself, only the music so I dont mind if a new version is out that I already have....unless there is a bonus track which never happend so far.

And about giving notes or a scale of beauty of thoses recordings, I dont like the idea cause it simply doesnt mean anything to me.

If today you ask me to choose 3 albums to go on a desert island I would give you 3 names and tomorrow 3 others probably totally different Wink
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zeruyo




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sun 10 Jun à 9:33

carterheywood wrote:

I had the idea that someone could post this message lol
Do you have all original releases AND the repress (like Winter & Winter series) ?

I've just bought the Sato Michihiro release "Rodan" with Steve Coleman as a sideman ( http://zeni.free.fr/musique/satomichiro.htm ). Do you know it ? Very interesting work


i'm not a collector so i don't have the represses and before buying some recording with steve as a sideman, i have to be sure i'm interested in the music project of the leader (as in the holland's case). Altough i appreciate steve's way of approaching to saxophone (i'm a saxophone player), i prefer his music thought as composer and project leader and this is why i own the whole discography of 5 elements, m-base, mystic rhythm and so on.

Dimitri E.B. wrote:

And about giving notes or a scale of beauty of thoses recordings, I dont like the idea cause it simply doesnt mean anything to me.

If today you ask me to choose 3 albums to go on a desert island I would give you 3 names and tomorrow 3 others probably totally different


i agree. My preference about Tao is mainly a statistic about which steve's cd i put more often
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Dimitri E.B.




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sun 10 Jun à 10:21

Statistics could be interresting Zeruyo Wink

I think Tao is in top 3 cheers
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Harry




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Sun 10 Jun à 12:31

Tao in top 3 for me too !!
I've got the whole steve coleman discography as a leader except "a tale of 3 cities"... but as I read here in this forum, it seems that it isn't the best album.... but I wanna listen at it to get my own point of view !
I don't have all these albums original, some of them though, but they are all in my computer, I don't really care having them on cds, the music really matters before everything else !
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fundf




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PostSubject: Some 3 important recordings   Sun 10 Jun à 23:14

Don't forget
Black Science with Five Elements, which is one of my favourites
Resistance is futile is a nice recording and the title track is amazing

And in top 3 is
M-Base-Collective "Anatomy of a Groove"
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carterheywood




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PostSubject: Re: Your Steve Coleman collection ?   Tue 12 Jun à 22:47

I first like the music like you too, but i can't say that i'm not attached to the CD as an object. For me it means the initial choice to "save" the music and keep it in time.

I know that it is not a priority for Steve Coleman, but in my collection I have records hand-made by the artist (so it's limited in number Razz ), in an artisanal feel... The artist makes the music and he wants to put it in a beautiful box. You don't put a Picasso in the toilet (I hope if you have one...).

But i'm not saying that the box is more important that the music, and I enjoy Steve idea to share his out of press records in mp3.

And I think that the CD (or LP etc) is the visiting card of a record.
If it's pretty simple, with a 2 pages booklet and no picture, I just imagine that the artist, at this moment, was just thinking about simplicity and natural of music.
If it's well done, very worked, with a 25 pages booklet, I just imagine that the artist wanted, at this moment, to precisely explain his own point of view about his music, and he didn't want to let the listener in an unknown way...

We can say lots of things about it... The only thing I want to say is : I love to listen to my record, in a cosy sitting, with the CD or the LP in my hand I love you

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but as I read here in this forum, it seems that it isn't the best album.... but I wanna listen at it to get my own point of view !


I love all the records with Metrics, because in my view, hiphop must be inspired by jazz to be good. All my hiphop records are jazzy records, and the work of Steve Coleman with Metrics is very near my conception of hiphop.
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