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francesco




Joined : 31 May 2006
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PostSubject: newcomer   Wed 7 Jun à 23:10

Hi everybody!

I discovered the site few days ago... and I finally understoood how to download music! cyclops GREAT! bounce
I know Coleman's music since years now, but I never had the opportunity to see him on stage... What a shame... The fact is that I move a lot, from Normandie to Burkina Faso and Cameroon...
Now I would stay in Bucharest (Romania) for quite a long period... Would Steve play here someday? Did he played here in the past?
I can't accept to read the concert reviews, and to stay here... like a kid who never the sea in his life! Mad
Anyway... it would happen... I keep hope! jocolor
Enjoy life with music... but not only with music!
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Manfred




Joined : 04 Apr 2006
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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 8 Jun à 11:50

Hi Franceso!

I often check the performance schedule on Steve Coleman’s homepage:
http://www.m-base.com/tour.html
There you can also find the tour information of the last years.

I have seen the Five Elements Band three times in Austria where I’m living. But my ears have problems with the loudness. So I can enjoy the music better from Dimitri’s recordings. To SEE the musicians is important also for me. So I’m very glade about Dimitri’s video files (and about “Elements Of One”).

>> Enjoy life with music... but not only with music! <<

Are you a magician?

Ciao
Manfred
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francesco




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 8 Jun à 22:36

>> Enjoy life with music... but not only with music! <<

>> Are you a magician? <<

Yes... I'm a magician... a magician of feeling... of love!
ART is not only music... poetry, theater... ALL these make me enjoy life... And travels, too... that's what I wanted to say...
TCHAW!
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Dimitri E.B.




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 8 Jun à 23:00

Hi Francesco and welcome here.

I dont know if Steve played in Bucarest, I dont think so, but I do remember during one of the last tour we almost did it to Romania, gig was cancelled short time beofre the tour began.

It might be in the future as eastern european countries seems to like jazz and creative music more and more....

dim.
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Manfred




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Fri 9 Jun à 13:44

>> Yes... I'm a magician... a magician of feeling... of love! <<

Since several days I was in a bad mood. Even music could not help. How to enjoy life? I thought: Only a magician can answer this question. – Yesterday I had a good conversation with my wife and so the magic came back. Now it seems to be easy to enjoy life … for some time. That magic is the best we can have. But we cannot produce it like cars and pictures in the TV. So I think.

Kind regards
Manfred
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francesco




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Tue 13 Jun à 22:08

(to Manfred) I understand... I feel magic is so "easy" in this period for me cause I finally live (since few weeks) with my girlfriend, after 5 years of long-distance relationship... So our world is pink now! I love you

(about jazz in eastern Europe, and especially Romania) the jazz scene isn't so so big here, but there's nice opprtunities... Especially musicians who mix traditional melodies and rythms with jazz. I think about Harry Tavitian, for example...

I stay informed, and wait patiently for Coleman to come in Bucharest!

Best Vibes to all of you!

Francesco
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Manfred




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Wed 14 Jun à 16:34

Hi Francesco!

>> … after 5 years of long-distance relationship …<<

I know that! For 8 years I travelled every weekend to my wife. Since 2 years we are together and that’s like paradise. It’s good to have learned (and don’t forget) how precious the presence of the other one is. I think that keeps love ongoing.

Last year a Hungarian violinist played with the Five Elements: Zoltan Lantos.
(Some pictures:) http://www.coejazz.de/html/dyncontent/gallery_book.php?EventID=35

Best vibes to you too!
Manfred
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francesco




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Wed 14 Jun à 23:59

>>It’s good to have learned (and don’t forget) how precious the presence of the other one is<<

I can't say more! With Tina we used to see every 3 or 4 months...
May your words be true (about keeping love going on!).

I looked at the photos... Nice. Are there some recordings available with this Zoltan Lantos? I discovered in the precious archives the concert in Bengalore with Indian musicians... And I like the mix horns/strings... It gives something "more", in my opinion... (I used to be a guitarist... I can't forget!!!). Are there any other SC recordings with strings (apart bass and guitar)? I didn't have time yet to explore all the archives... And the connexion is often "breaking"... I don't know why.

Viva la Vida!

Francesco
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Manfred




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 9:48

As far as I know there is no recording with Zoltan Lantos on Dimitri’s FTP.

I don’t know any other recording with strings on the FTP but I don’t know all recordings of the FTP.
Strings on official CDs: “Genesis”, “The Sonic Language Of Myth”, “Lucidarium”

That’s what I can say.

Now: The sun is shining and I will pedal with my wife through the forest, across the Danube and upon a hill where it’s very nice. Nature is another magician – especially on a warm summer day. I guess you will agree Smile

Viva la Vida!

Manfred
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francesco




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 10:39

ok. Thanks. I already know these albums. About that, I can't download anymore from Steve's M-Base site... you know why?

AAAAHHHHH NATURE!!! My second love! We plan to go to Carpathes mountains to walk this week-end... Hope meteo would be ok...
And we been pedalling in countryside around Bucharest last sunday. We visited nice villages and a peaceful orthodox monastery... with a lot of flowers!

Enjoy life!
Viva la musica! afro

Francesco
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Dimitri E.B.




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 12:10

Hello Manfred and Francesco,

your talk is funny, keep it up Laughing

About String players :

I badly need time but I have a couple of videos and audio recording from the Mystic Rhythm Society tour with the hungarian musicians.
There was Zoltan on violin and some cymbalum player among them.

I will try to edit and upload to my FTP but not before august as I m busy until that time.

I dont think of other live recording with strings at the moment, beside the Council of Balance tour from july '99 or the Mystic recording with Mya Masaoka -> check spring 1996 tour with Mystic.

Dim.
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Manfred




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 20:00

>> I can't download anymore from Steve's M-Base site <<

I can’t too. It doesn’t work. I repeatedly have noticed that it didn’t work for some time.

I try to visualize the areas where you are walking and pedalling. I often like to see pictures in the TV about the country in Eastern Europe – the naturalness, the slowness, the sensuousness …

My problem with nature is: I’m a bit too sensitive in nearly every sense. For example: After pedalling upon the hill my ass hurts a bit and I have to give it a break. Rolling Eyes

So I can’t say: Life is joy. But: Joy and trouble are very close together. Neutral

Seth, Maat … all those crazy guys are fighting for their egos and I really do my best to love this game called life.

Now I will see a TV-documentation about the Bakra people – masters of living in nature and masters of music.

albino
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Dimitri E.B.




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 23:44

Manfred wrote:

My problem with nature is: I’m a bit too sensitive in nearly every sense. For example: After pedalling upon the hill my ass hurts a bit and I have to give it a break. Rolling Eyes


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francesco




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Thu 15 Jun à 23:46

Hi All!

>>I will try to edit and upload to my FTP but not before august as I m busy until that time.<<
Ok... I would patient for this too... Have good work!
Dimitri, I would follow your indications for "strings". Thanks!!

Sorry, Manfred, I have only "ordinary" photos of my walks in Carpaths, and no scanner... But you can find more than 7000 photos of Romanian Carpths at http://www.carpati.org/galerie_poze_fotografii.php (the site is in romanian...)

>>Seth, Maat … all those crazy guys are fighting for their egos<<
I don't understand well this sentence... these are names of SC's tracks... but I don't know more...

>>Now I will see a TV-documentation about the Bakra people<<
Who are these "Bakra"? Don't you make a confusion with Baka pygmies from southern Cameroon? Or maybe it's just a typing error? Anyway, if you speak about pygmies, I spent few days with them, when I was making fieldwork in Cameroon for my PhD thesis (about music, for sure!, but on another ethnic group), and it was so so MAGIC... I would remember these moments all my life, in particular when they made these wonderful polyphonic chants. I knew pygmy music since a long time (I'm a fan of ethnomusicology), but to assist to this LIVE.... WOUAH! I advise everybody to go there. I didn't see Coleman live, but I saw Baka! I'm reconforted!
Oh I saw few days ago a funny movie with Baka pygmies... "Les pygmees de Carlo" of Radu Mihaileanu (he's french, even if his name is romanian)...

Mother Africa... keeps on giving us good vibrations!

TCHAW!

Francesco
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Manfred




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PostSubject: Re: newcomer   Fri 16 Jun à 11:31

Hi Francesco!

Yes, I meant the Baka pygmies! Few days ago the Hungarian „modern“ composer György Ligeti died. Some years ago I read in a magazine that he was so fascinated by the music of the Baka pygmies that he brought a group of them to Berlin for a concert. It was very interesting for me what I read and I searched for more to read. I found an article of a French musicologist who studied the music of the Baka’s but he primarily could not understand it. He recorded the music and then he asked every singer to sing his part alone. He noted down every part on long paper stripes. Finally he set all stripes together. This method was necessary because the polyphony is so complex though its elements are simple. Also the (cross) rhythms are complex. After reading about this I bought 2 CDs. – I grew up in the Austrian part of the Alps where yodelling is used in folk music. Of course the Baka’s yodelling is very different but I also like it. (In Jazz Leon Thomas was yodelling and (as far as I know) he was inspired by the pygmies. I like his singing too.).

Sometimes I really could enjoy the pygmies’ music though I surely can’t hear the details right. To hear their chants in nature must be great. I can understand that you never forget it.

Your PhD thesis: What is it all about?

Thanks for the very nice photos of the Carpaths. They remind me of the Alps where I will be there in some weeks. Looking at the photos I feel like going upon a mountain pasture in the Alps where I often was with my wife – and maybe we will go a bit higher with the bike if my ass allows Wink

>> Mother Africa... keeps on giving us good vibrations! <<

In my youth I went to a dancing school (in a dark suit and with tie). I especially liked Latin music. This way I began to love Afro-Brazilian music, Afro-Cuban music … later Jazz … Steve Coleman’s music – (now I’m 53 years old). I mostly preferred Afro elements in music. These elements seem to be something essential, an important counterpoint to “western” thinking. They remind of the true nature of the human being and bring back a vitalization, an animation … Perhaps much of these ideas are romantic and idealized but there is something I’m sure of though it’s hard to explain. The verbalism “good vibrations” seems to be appropriate also from my point of view. Africa was the birthplace of humankind and though it always seems to die it is still our all mother. So I think.

Manfred
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